Sunday, December 04, 2011

Waging Ghostly War on a National Level: Just a Suggestion

Any schoolteacher, or developmental psychologist, could tell you about Jean Piaget.  His most noteworthy contribution to science consisted of a model of intellectual development over the course of childhood.  The model broke down cognitive growth into four stages: (1) sensorimotor, (2) preoperational, (3) concrete operations, and (4) formal operations.  In the sensorimotor stage, a child’s primary thoughts center on control of the body and the exploration of the world through the senses.  It’s in this stage that a child learns to walk, distinguish sounds and colors and so on.  In the preoperational stage, the child develops a sense of self while she continues to master sensorimotor tasks.  During this stage of life (between two and seven), the child has yet to become acquainted with logical thinking, and tends to see the world as operating on a magical level (e.g., belief in the tooth fairy, the Easter Bunny, Father Christmas, and so on).  In the stage of concrete operations (ages seven to thirteen), children can grasp logical concepts, but only in a limited fashion.  They stop believing in “little kid stuff,” but at the same time can only understand things in a very black-and-white way, and can only apply their reasoning to things that they can directly experience.  (As my psyche professors often said, a number of people will never leave this stage of development, and remain will here to old age.)  The fourth level, formal operations (ages thirteen-on), is the adult thinking, the ability to apply logic to abstract concepts and critique principles; formal thinkers can even critique the value of logic itself.

Despite the fame of this model, Drs. Charles Brainerd and Valerie Reyna pay closer attention to Piaget’s work in another area: suggestibility.  Specifically, they point to his criticism of ‘mesmerization,’ a belief in the natural magnetic properties of animal life over inanimate matter.  Developed by physician Franz Mesmer, it eventually morphed into a crude form of hypnosis over the course of the Nineteenth Century.  Piaget’s take on this was that mesmerization, or hypnosis, worked on suggestibility.  In other words, the hypnotist has no power that the subject doesn’t forfeit to him or her.  Or, as noted neurologist Jean-Martin-Charcot said, hypnosis was itself “an induced hysteria--what doctors nowadays might refer to more formally as induced dissociation.

Suggestibility plays a key role in Brainerd and Reyna’s premise, because they believe that false memories come about through “spontaneous distortion processes,” or “autosuggestion.” 

Specifically, autosuggestion plays a larger role in the thought processes of children, precisely for the reasons alluded to by Piaget’s cognitive development model.  After all, if a child is prone to accept Santa Claus as a reality, then he or she can ascribe a number of different magical causes for observable effects, thus (according to Brainerd and Reyna) creating a false memory of causality.  They back this observation up with studies of what others called ‘the long-memory improvement effect.’* In these studies, children showed more accuracy in their memories after more time had elapsed.  This might, at first, seem counterintuitive.  After all, for most of us, the more time passes, the less we remember.  The authors concluded that for preoperational children, there is no memory of events because they simply cannot grasp the underlying logic behind events.  As Brainerd and Reyna wrote:
Piaget’s second, and more crucial prediction, is what Altemeyer, Fulton and Burney (1968) dubbed the long-memory improvement effect.  On the 8-month test, contrary to the commonsense prediction of forgetting-induced deterioration, the memory of children who were classified below the concrete-operational level should be better than on the 1-week test.  The reason is that many children will have made the logical concept that is necessary (according to Piaget) for accurate memory.
Children also have a tendency to believe what adults tell them, even if it runs contrary to their experience.  The authors make the rather commonsense observation that authority can skew the response of children, who tend to defer to adults’ version of events because they presume that they are more accurate than their own.  And even if they don’t assume that, there’s little they can do to clarify or champion such matters.  After all, they’re too busy struggling with their conceptual framework to challenge the confidence authority exudes.

The authors further illustrate the concept of suggestibility in children by quoting verbatim the very same transcriptions that I cited earlier, in the series on McMartin Preschool.  In this example, it should be clear to professional and layman alike that psychiatric social worker Kee McFarlane and pediatrician Dr. Astrid Heger’s aggressive questioning techniques coerced inaccurate responses from their preoperational interviewees.  Brainerd and Reyna cite Alfred Binet’s findings on memory distortion in explanation of events similar to what went on at McMartin:
On  basis of his findings, Binet (1900) offered four conclusions about false-memory reports that are still significant today.  First, he concluded that the memories of younger children, older children, and adults are all susceptible to memory distortion, whether by autosuggestion or by external misinformation, but that young children are most highly susceptible….Second, Binet concluded…that the nature of an interviewer’s language and the form of the questions that are posed can powerfully distort memory reports….Third, Binet interpreted his finding of a lack of relationship between confidence and accuracy as demonstrating once an erroneous response is given, it is incorporated into memory as a faithful representation of the original events…..  Fourth, Binet concluded that subjects, particularly children, were more susceptible to suggestion when tested in groups than when tested individually.
The McMartin children, for example, were often cited as the fundamental source of false information, even though most adults following the trial attributed this to the manner in which questions were put to them, thus illustrating Binet conclusions one and two.  Conclusions three and four, however, apply more generally to the public, and are more readily seen in adults.  Later in the book, the authors illustrated these conclusions by citing actual case studies.   But when we consciously make the distinction between memory and belief, one can demonstrate that Binet’s last two conclusions explain a lot about the behavior of the McMartin parents.

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*Drs. Robert Altemeyer, Daniel Fulton and Kent Berney did the initial study in 1968, which they published in a paper titled “Long-Term Memory Improvement,” appearing in vol. 3, n.4 (Sep 1969) of Child Development. 

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15 Comments:

  • At 6:12 AM, Blogger Charles Gramlich said…

    Interesting to see a lot of psychology types in this post. The suggestibility of children is certain. Unfortunate that too many adults take advantage of that.

     
  • At 9:40 PM, Blogger X. Dell said…

    The suggestibility of adults is also certain, Charles. Of course, the question here is whether we suggest beliefs or actual experience.

     
  • At 11:13 AM, Blogger Dr.Alistair said…

    noted neurologist Jean-Martin-Charcot said, hypnosis was itself “an induced hysteria--what doctors nowadays might refer to more formally as induced dissociation.

    my hypnosis clients are all fully associated and anchored to whatever change state i/we choose and wish.

    the only time i induce dissociation is in re-living trauma for detail forensically (rare) or in dealing with phobias.

    regarding the difference and distinction between beliefs and actual experiences.....only god knows...and he aint talking.

    when i work with clients to distinguish between fact and fiction in their minds as part of an assessment, there are ways to tell whether they actually had an experience or not, mostly with eye accessing cues, but if a person believes something happened in their past, whether delusional or not, the eye accessing cues are the same.

    especially in trauma cases, many times things that are impossible to have actually happened, are reported as true by subjects, and are very difficult to tell apart from fact when only the traumatized person is available for evaluation.

     
  • At 11:38 AM, Blogger X. Dell said…

    Alistair, it would be very helpful here if you could elaborate on how a therapist, such as yourself, goes about separating actuality from fantasy.

    I would guess that most of today's professionals would agree with you about Charcot's assessment of hypnosis.

     
  • At 10:23 PM, Blogger Ray Palm (Ray X) said…

    On a side note, speaking of children under the influence of adults (...authority can skew the response of children..), you might find this interesting:

    UK Still Staging UFO Crash Drills in Schools

    Could you clarify this a bit for me re: "the long-term memory effect?"

    In these studies, children showed more accuracy in their memories after more time had elapsed... The authors concluded that for preoperational children, there is no memory of events because they simply cannot grasp the underlying logic behind events.

    OK, getting older for me like most people means that sometimes I can't remember if an event happened two years ago, three years ago, whatever, and some of the details about it have faded. In fact what I think happened back in 2008 actually happened in 2006 or earlier when I look it up online (like a news story).

    I must be missing the point but are you saying that after a child experiences an event, details about it are better a year later than a month later? Or do you mean that as children grow older their long-term memory improves? And what does having an underlying logic have to do with this?

    Maybe I'm getting dense in my old age...

     
  • At 12:54 AM, Blogger X. Dell said…

    Regarding the UFO drills, I can't say much about English ethical standards, but in the US I'm quite sure the teachers would have lost their licenses to exposing children to trauma. Yeah, it was fake, but the kids didn't know that.

    The long memrory improvement effect is a psychological phenomenon specific to children. For adults, the more time that has elapsed since an event, the less chance the memory has of being completely accurate. But in many instances, it is the reverse for children. That's because kids tend to have very poor grasp of theoretical concepts. Once they get older, and their brains develop, their memory of an event could actually be more accurate at a later date because now they have an intellectual framework upon which to understand what they experienced.

    Lemme give you an example from when I was living with my ex (?) spy friend. He, his three year-old son and I were alone in the house when my friend thought it would be nice for the three of us to take a walk. I agreed, and his son sounded interested. So he told the kid to run upstairs and put on his shoes. The kid ran upstairs, and came back down a couple of minutes later to tell us that he couldn't find them.

    My friend told his son to look for them in his room, while the two of us damn near wrecked the place looking for the stupid things. About forty-five minutes later, we were completely baffled as to where they could be.

    The kid had made numerous progress reports on his search, yelling out every five minutes or so that he couldn't find them in his room. But we thought we should help him search anyway. What's there to lose, right?

    So we get into the room, and sure enough the kid's ransacking his closet looking for shoes. The first thing his dad an I notice when we enter the room are a pair of kiddie Reeboks sitting on his bed.

    His father said, "I thought you said you couldn't find your shoes," pointing at the bed.

    His son took a quick glance at the bed and said, "You told me to put on my shoes. Those are sneakers."

    You see, at the age of three, my friend's child could look at a pair of dress shoes, and call them shoes, a pair of sneakers and call them sneakers. But he lacked a theory of "shoeness." He couldn't see the sneakers as shoes. For him, these were completely different animals--just as for an adult a house key is different from a screwdriver (even though both will open a can of paint).

    Now, if we had found his hiking shoes, his tennis shoes, and his dress shoes, lined them all in a row and told him, "Okay. Count all of your shoes, and remember the number," and then ask him the next day how many shoes he had, he would say either two or four.

    Now, according to the long memory improvement effect, if we asked the kid two years later, "You remember that day when we asked you to count your shoes, and remember the number?" he would probably say yes. When asked, he would correctly remember six shoes.

    I know that answer's a bit long-winded, but I'm hoping it clarifies the issue.

     
  • At 3:14 AM, Blogger Dr.Alistair said…

    x, when i work with people who are traumatized, either overtly or otherwise, i like to calibrate responses.

    i ask them what their name is and so on, things they and i know the answer to, and are pretty sure they wouldn't try to lie about, and watch how they access the information internally by seeing where their eyes go.

    once i have calibrated where they go to look for truthful answers i have a reasonably reliable method of telling whether a lie or misstatement is made from that point onward.

    for a rough guide to how eye accessing cues work, remember that visual accessing is upward, either left or right, auditory is horizontally left or right, and feelings are downward, either left or right.

    there is some disagreement as to whether one side or the other is truthful or not, and so that's why i calibrate for each client with their own arrangement to have some reasonable accuracy.

    and the ability to be able to spot eye accessing cues takes training and experience. not everyone overtly accesses internal states. some pathological types, medicated, or brain injured persons never sway from an eyes-forward stare, which makes any such methods useless.

    this method is great fun with cnn interviews and makes them a good place to begin testing interviewees (and interviewers) for truthfulness.

    eye accessing cues are only one way to test for truthfulness though, shifts in body language can be calibrated also, as well as breathing, pupil dilation and so on.

     
  • At 12:41 PM, Blogger X. Dell said…

    I see, Alistair. What you're doing is in some ways similar to how polygraphs work. There's a baseline assessment of unconscious (for a polygraph, autonomic) responses that you observe first before asking the questions you really want to ask.

    I'm familiar with the eye movement associations (upward for sight, etc.), but more in the context of whether one is more visually oriented, sonically or tactilely oriented (according to one of my old shrinks, I tend to be one of the most sonically oriented people she's come across-I guess not that unusual for a working musician).

     
  • At 11:30 PM, Blogger Ray Palm (Ray X) said…

    X. Dell:

    OK, now I have (I think) a better grasp of the concepts. I'm one of those "Could you give me a real world example?" types and your story helped.

    So if I understand this correctly --

    "Once [kids] get older, and their brains develop, their memory of an event could actually be more accurate at a later date because now they have an intellectual framework upon which to understand what they experienced."

    --means that an event involving concepts they couldn't understand when it happened -- as the "shoeness" story you told -- will stick in their minds like unsolved puzzle/mystery until they have the experience and knowledge to look back and put the pieces together. Such puzzles/mysteries are sorta frozen in memory storage, waiting for enough data to solve them.

    Is that the correct concept?

     
  • At 11:43 PM, Blogger X. Dell said…

    Ray, that's exactly it.

     
  • At 3:44 AM, Blogger Shrinky said…

    This is the first I've heard of a UK UFO experiment, the questional ethics of which severely alarms me.

    From what you and Charles discuss, it appears virtually impossible to discern whether a subject actually experienced a memory, or if it is a false recollection, because if he holds a solid belief in it, his reations to any questioning would remain the same for either instance?

     
  • At 8:22 PM, Blogger X. Dell said…

    That's the point, Shrinky. We can say that we remember something because we believe it. We might even be able to visualize it. But I think it's a mistake to actually call that an experience. If one wishes to deem the memory false, you would have to say that it's actually an accurate memory of a delusion.

     
  • At 1:28 AM, Blogger Ray Palm (Ray X) said…

    X. Dell:

    Quote:

    "In the stage of concrete operations (ages seven to thirteen), children can grasp logical concepts, but only in a limited fashion. They stop believing in “little kid stuff,” but at the same time can only understand things in a very black-and-white way, and can only apply their reasoning to things that they can directly experience. (As my psyche professors often said, a number of people will never leave this stage of development, and remain will here to old age.)"

    E.g., Liberty Net?

     
  • At 1:33 AM, Blogger Ray Palm (Ray X) said…

    Dr. Alistair:

    Re: eye accessing clues.

    When I'm talking to someone I sometimes glance to my left, looking at something mid-distance, grabbing a word, term or phrase from the air as such.

    Has anyone ever noted that in psychological studies? If so, what is supposed to indicate?

    (No, I'm not asking for any sort of diagnosis.)

     
  • At 8:52 PM, Blogger X. Dell said…

    Ray, I'll leave the second question to Dr. Alistair.

    As for the first, would you suggest Liberty Net is preoperational or in an early stage of concrete operations?

    Actually, they would be good examples of what my psyche professors would say is the tendency of some people to remain in a state of concrete operations into adulthood.

     

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