Monday, January 16, 2012

Waging Ghostly War on a National Level: The Price of Tea


In Recovered Memories of Abuse, Drs. Kenneth Pope and Laura Brown listed four major concerns about the Lost in the Mall Study that could just as well apply to all of the research conducted by proponents of the FMS hypothesis:
1.  Does the trauma specified in the lost-in-the-mall experiment seem comparable to the trauma forming the basis of FMS?

2.  What is the impact of the potentially confounding variables in claiming the shopping mall experiment to be a convincing analogue of therapy?

3.  Has this line of research assumed that verbal reports provided to researchers are the equivalent of actual memories. Spanos suggested that changes in report in suggestibility research may represent compliance with social demand conditions of the research design rather than actual changes in what is recalled.*

4.  If the experiment is assumed for heuristic reasons to demonstrate that an older family member can extensively rewrite a younger relative’s memory in regard to a trauma at which the older relative was present, why have FMS proponents presented this research as applying to the dynamics of therapy…but not to the dynamics of families, particularly those in which parents or other relatives may be exerting pressure on an adult to retract reports of delayed recall?

In a previously mentioned study cited by Drs. Charles Brainerd and Valerie Reyna, where volunteers kept a journal for 147 days and deliberately included false information in them, and afterwards were asked to pick out which items were false, most of what turned out to be inaccurate in the subjects’ recall were not particularly traumatic. This goes to the heart of one problematic area of the Lost in the Mall study. As Brainerd and Reyna’s Fuzzy Trace Theory would indicate, we tend to forget, or distort memories of the mundane. They all fall into a kind of soup. The false items included in the diary study had to have been sufficiently mundane to escape detection. If, for example, the volunteers had made up a story about a severely burned finger, or falsely noted the death of a loved one, they would have had little problem recognizing such an event as a falsity.

Part of the FMS hypothesis rests on the notion of autosuggestion–a tendency to interpolate memories in lines with biases or presuppositions. The problem here is we can see that autosuggestion to the point of overwriting one’s personal experience would be considerably difficult if the memory were truly traumatic. External suggestion of a fictional trauma would also be. If someone, even an authority figure, were to casually suggest that something devastating happened to us in our distant past (e.g., witnessing the murder of a parent), then we might dismiss the thought outright (especially if the parent in question is still living) and wonder why this person is trying to get us to believe that. If the authority did more than simply suggest, if they badgered us, cajoled, tortured us with sleep, food or water depravation, or manipulated us into accepting the false belief, we could eventually break down, and go along with whatever they said. We might even believe them, as in the case of false confessions. But what we would have at this point is a belief, not an actual experiencing of a fictional event as the term false memory would describe. Moreover, successful implantation of a traumatic belief would require far more effort than casual suggestion, another tenet of the FMS hypothesis.

Getting separated from a parent in a large crowd is fairly common, or at least it was when I was growing up. Many shopping areas and amusement parks have designated areas for children to wait while their parents come to get them (a local amusement park here calls it the “Lost Parents” shelter). While certainly stressful for the child at the time, it is nevertheless something that could have plausibly happened to any of us or to someone we know. When weighed against a lifetime of stresses, it could even seem insignificant to the point where memory distortion could occur in the same manner as the journals study. Maybe the subject wasn’t lost in a shopping mall, for example, but rather in a restaurant, or a bowling alley. He or she could still recall the emotions that they experienced, the anxiety of not being with one’s protector, and so on. But here, they could have transposed a real (but incomplete) memory onto someone else’s framework believing that they were mistaken. Thus the salient part of the gist memory (being lost) would have been quite accurate, although most of the other details would have been in error. To dub something like this a false memory would be, as Drs. Pope and Brown describe it, “naive.” It would probably be more helpful if we concede that normal memory is made up of accurate and inaccurate details.

Another problem along these lines is that in the Lost in the Mall study, the researcher is basing her assumption of false memory on what the parent or sibling has told them. Why would we assume that the relative’s memory is more accurate than that of the subject? Then too, a parent might not be so quick to acknowledge getting separated from a child because he or she had a fixation on some bargain or another. They could understandably fear that other people would regard such an admission as an example of bad parenting.

Although it’s stressful, one has to question if we can fairly call such a common event traumatic. Certainly, it is not traumatic to the degree that childhood sexual abuse would be.  Thus, in answer to the first issue raised by Drs. Pope and Brown, we can clearly say that getting lost in a shopping mall is nothing comparable to the trauma that the FMS hypothesis says is so easily implanted. Even Dr. Elizabeth Loftus, the author of the Lost-in-the-Mall study, conceded this point in the Scientific American article cited previously.**

Of course, if the objective of the Lost-in-the-Mall study were to actually induce a fictional trauma, then it would have severely crossed the line of research ethics. Characterizing the experience as “mildly traumatic,” in some ways serves to minimize the ethical concerns of the study, while at the same time being able to latch it onto the arguments made by supporters of the FMSF, specifically with respect to autobiographical accuracy and external suggestion.

As for the second issue, whether or not the Lost-in-the-Mall study is a “convincing analogue” of the therapeutic process, one would have to weigh the similarities and the differences. In both cases, someone would have been in charge, would have interacted with the subject one-on-one, and would have perhaps offered advice or opinions. If Dr. Loftus, or similarly credential professional were the interviewer, then perhaps it would be a suitable comparison to therapy in that respect. But in some of the more high profile examples, the authority conducting the study was an undergraduate student learning how to be a credentialed professional.

The dynamics of both situations would grant a substantial degree of authority to the professional, in which the subject would have placed his trust. However, the goals of the study differ from that of psychotherapy. The first is concerned with gathering data; the second is centered around the well-being of the subject. While I could imagine that a therapist might be deceptive with certain patients (especially in a crisis situation where restoring order becomes paramount), that isn’t his or her primary goal. The study, on the other hand, had acceptance of the supposed lie as its main objective.

The settings would be different, of course, leading to other “confounding variables.” But the role of family in alliance with the psychologist in opposition to the subject, is a critical difference here. Even though the family might not be witting participants in the experimenter’s deception, their authority is marshaled by the researcher for the sole purpose of coercing the subject to confess a belief in something that allegedly didn’t occur.

So, in order for someone to say that the LITM study is a convincing analogue of therapy, they would have to show specific cases of actual therapy where the shrink’s sole purpose was to persistently manipulate, coerce, and deceive the patient in order to get them to accept a falsehood.

Okay, maybe that’s happened. Still, that kind of thing would seem to be exceedingly rare. A mad psychiatrist manipulating his or her patients for the sheer pleasure of having an army of psycho zombies (who pay him or her $200 an hour) to control sounds like the stuff of grindhouse movies. Of course, if you look hard enough, and long enough, then you’ll eventually find just about anything. But this would lead many a rational person to think that such wouldn’t really be the norm. Therefore, the sweeping generalizations abounding in the FMS hypothesis–implantation is easy, it just takes mild suggestion, even by accident by competent and expert shrinks alike–don’t seem to hold water.

In reference to Drs Pope and Brown’s second issue, one has to question the LITM study’s relevance to the therapeutic process, and any of the studies offered by Dr.s Brainerd and Reyna. It would therefore seem that none of these studies offer a "convincing analogue" of therapy, and are thus making apples-to-oranges types of arguments.

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* The authors are specifically referring to a 1994 paper written by Dr. Nicholas Spanos titled “Multiple identity Enactments and Multiple Personality Disorder: A Sociocognitive Perspective” which appeared in Psychological Bulletin, v. 116.

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16 Comments:

  • At 1:08 PM, Blogger Chris Benjamin said…

    I'd never heard of the "false memory" movement before. This is fascinating, and disturbing.

    My question is: what has been the media's role in reporting this? Have you observed them taking sides, or are they somewhat objective in reporting these studies? Do they bother to look into methodology?

     
  • At 1:19 PM, Blogger Dr.Alistair said…

    if i can persuade a person to forget the number 4 in a sequence of numbers associated with counting fingers during a mild hypnotic trance, and create some discomfort in my subject when i ask him or her to count her fingers and he/she discovers she has 11 fingers.....then false memories can be induced in people unknowingly.

    one can cite studies to bolster this claim and you can cite studies that refute my claim, but i do this in stage hypnosis pre-ambles to demonstrate to the greater audience my "powers" and establish authority over those who volunteer to come up and entertain everyone at my command.

     
  • At 1:25 PM, Blogger Dr.Alistair said…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3iS2gTOPk

    regrettably i don't have video of my stage work, but here's a good example of a light induction followed by commands and then amnesia.

    one could say it's fake, as some inevitably do, but there are many on youtube, including one done by one of my nlp teachers steve g. jones who's professional reputation is at stake.

    interestingly, i'm doing a stage hypnosis event this saturday, and while i'm not set up to do video, i'll see if someone can record part of it with a cell phone and i'll post it....

     
  • At 4:44 PM, Blogger Ray Palm (Ray X) said…

    X. Dell:

    Are you talking about "normal" or "average" people under everyday circumstances, excluding other variables such as hypnosis, drugs, etc.? Are you going to touch upon fantasy prone personalities?

    Of course, there's Roseanne Barr and her accusations of child abuse/incest with her parents.

     
  • At 8:49 PM, Blogger X. Dell said…

    Chris, the media's role in reporting this has often seemed one-sided in support of the FMS hypothesis. Propnents of FMS have gotten a number of uncritical reviews from NPR, and large dailies. For a more thorough understanding of media propagation of the FMSF line, I would suggest Mike Stanton's "U-Turn on Memory Lane." Although the article's somewhat dated, its thrust is still quite relevant.

    Dr. Alistair, with all due respect, is the blocking of the number 4 from consciousness (as the Dr. McGiven lecture you cited in the last alluded to)a question of induced false memory, or induced false source encoding? True, both would produce similar inaccuracies. But the memory itself would be an accurate recounting of what the subject perceived at the time, wouldn't it?

    I'd love to see your stage hypnosis show. I've seen a couple, and they were both really entertaining. If you post it, I'll definitely link to it here.

    Ray, since the research done by Drs. Loftus, Brainerd, Reyna, Clancy et al have harped on the normalcy of false memory, and the facility of suggestion (auto or otherwise), then we would seem to be talking about the vast majority of us.

    I'm not quite sure if I understand what you (or anyone else) means by "fantasy-prone." There are numerous people who can develop rich fantasy lives, but they are quite able to distinguish between fantasy and reality. If you're talking about people who are delusional, because of psychosis, then that would be a completely separate issue.

    I'm considering talking about Roseanne, since she was such a visible recanter. We'll see.

     
  • At 2:09 AM, Blogger Ray Palm (Ray X) said…

    A link to a blogger's story about Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, child sexual abuse and hypnoanalysis:

    http://ordinaryevil.wordpress.com/my-story/

    And here's her take on Roseanne Barr "recanting:"

    http://bit.ly/y6NV3p


    A link to an explanation of a fantasy-prone personality (the way I was referring to it):

    http://www.skepdic.com/fantasyprone.html

    Through Google Scholar you can find a number of hits to studies dealing with FPP. I did a quick scan and they seem to be walled off (no one click access / you have to pay).

     
  • At 8:32 AM, Blogger Chris Benjamin said…

    Also fascinating, thanks! Btw I'm reading a great novel right now called The Way the Crow Flies by Ann Marie MacDonald, which deals with a lot of subject matter I think you'd find interesting.

     
  • At 11:34 AM, Blogger Shrinky said…

    Hmn, I got lost as a kid so many times whilst out shopping with my mum, looking back, I begin to wonder if it wasn't done on purpose..? But I digress (smile).

    By coincidence, just this week I witnessed someone forget the number three, under hypnosis, which truly does illustrate false memories certainly ARE able to be induced.

     
  • At 6:22 AM, Blogger Dr.Alistair said…

    Dr. Alistair, with all due respect, is the blocking of the number 4 from consciousness (as the Dr. McGiven lecture you cited in the last alluded to)a question of induced false memory, or induced false source encoding? True, both would produce similar inaccuracies. But the memory itself would be an accurate recounting of what the subject perceived at the time, wouldn't it?

    in the right frame of mind, the person perceiving the experience or suggestion cannot distinguish between the two and accepts either as equally valid.

    in hypnosis i sometimes embed my suggestions in an amnesiatic frame so that the person is unaware of the command and cannot edit it after the fact. this is especially useful where a person might be consciously resistant to a suggestion in stop smoking for example.

    returning back to mundane communication between people, you find occasionally that an authoritative type may unknowingly embed amnesia and command suggestions in the receiver merely because that's their speaking style, and not because of some sinister intent.

    so much parent/child communication contains not only hypnotic suggestions, amnesia and so on, but double bind signals such as "i love you but...." which makes it difficult to separate loving feelings from sanction in the child.

    the next time you are in a supermarket listen carefully to a mother under duress trying to get an unruly child under control and you will hear what i'm referring to.

    and don't get me started on the priest/congregation fugue.......

     
  • At 3:22 PM, Blogger Dr.Alistair said…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTamwGuksd8

    the double bind amnesia method.

     
  • At 1:05 PM, Blogger Chris Benjamin said…

    That book I mentioned btw is based on the real-life rape and murder of 12-year-old, Lynne Harper in 1959, for which an innocent boy spent 10 years in prison but the killer was never found.

     
  • At 4:37 AM, Blogger The Lady Prism said…

    Hi X! :D

    Dropped by to say hope the start of the year is treating you great, and the the rest of 2012 be awesome for you! :D

     
  • At 8:16 AM, Blogger X. Dell said…

    Ray, it's not that I haven't heard the term 'Fantasy Prone Person,' especially when it comes up time and again when talking about ufology. My problem with the term is that it seems to be conflating a lot of different issues into one. For example, in Wilson and Barber's original 1981 study, 65% of their original subjects reported traits more symptomatic of schizophrenia than anything else; they had delusions; aural, tactile and auditory hallucinations, and so forth. At the same time, their remaining subjects gave no evidence of schizophrenia, and could aptly discern reality from daydream. If you recall Dr. Slater's examination of the nine psychologicals referred to her by Bud Hopkins, she made a similar observation: these people knew the difference between their fantasies and reality.

    I should point out also that your Skeptic's Dictionary link notes that Wilson and Barber's study was easily replicated--a key activity in scientific research (google Jim McConnell and flat worms to see what I mean).

    Seeing that the term has also been used as a pejorative and dismissive explanation of anyone who reports something anomalous, that's why I said that I wasn't sure of what you meant by it. It seems to be used as a psychological description of a non-pathology, a psychological description of a non-psychotic pathology, clear definition of schizophrenia, or as often used in colloquial discourse, colorful bordering on crazy.

    Thanks too for the Roseanne link. Perhaps I will talk about her at one point, for I see some very strong ties between that and Brown and Pope's fourth issue.


    Chris, thanks for the mention of the book. It does seem to have some tie-in's to, if not this particular series, the meta-series as a whole. Thus, it's now on my reading list.

    Lady Prism!!! It's great to see you still around in 2012. I'm hoping you and your family have a great year.

    Shrinky, I would suggest that the phenomenon of forgetting a number isn't easily applicable to the concept of false memory. First off, what we have in that example is not the replication of a false memory so much as we have amnesia and source confusion. That's considerably different from the implanting of experience (i.e. memory). At the point of forgetting a number, other, accurate memories, produce confusion.

    Take the example Dr. Alistair cited earlier. When the guy who forgets a number says he has eleven fingers and that everyone else has eleven fingers too, what he's remembering is that he has a normal amount of fingers. He's simply confused on the concept of numbers for a short while.

    There's a huge difference between mistaken perception, distorted memory, and what some are championing as false memory. It would better serve many (especially people who have to deal with this) to make sure that we don't just clumsily label everything as the same.

    Dr. Alistair, I think I have a better grasp of where you're coming from. Part of my confusion lay in the fact that the YouTube presenter is using the term "double bind" in a somewhat different way than you have earlier in this blog. Then again, in large part what he's saying, and what you're saying, are really in affirmation with Pope and Brown's fourth issue. and sheds a great deal of light on such things as false confessions.

    It also might shed light on the nature of recantations of childhood abuse allegations. Go to Ray's Roseanne link to see what I mean.

     
  • At 1:26 PM, Blogger Dr.Alistair said…

    x, thanks for taking the time to be rigorous with the material i posted.

    in reading roseanne barr's recantation i was struck by the force with which she firstly approached and embraced the memories, and then seems to have recanted.

    it would suggest to me that the experience exhausted her trying to consciously find memories, clues and solutions so that she could find some clarity throughout her experience.

    by the way, the stage show went well, and i have raw video on my step-son's phone which i will post when i have a minute and i'll send you a link.

     
  • At 10:16 PM, Blogger Candy Minx said…

    As always really mind blowing topics!

     
  • At 5:49 PM, Blogger X. Dell said…

    Dr. Alistair, I look forward to the posting. Also, thanks for giving your take on Roseanne. It's fairly close to my own.

    Hi, Candy. Its always good to see you here. Thanks for stopping by.

     

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